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Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Kills People Too

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Florida's "Stand Your Ground Law" Results In Unjustified Shootings of People Too

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Florida's Stand Your Ground Law is one of the main reasons that the shooter of Epic and Samson escaped prosecution. It has also resulted in some questionable shootings of people too.  The St. Petersburg Times published an interesting article showing that "justifiable homicide" claims have gone up in the last five years since its enactment. The full article can be read here.  This is a must read article for anyone who wants to see how the law has affected the use of deadly force across the state.

Florida averaged about 34 justifiable homicides a year before the law was passed in 2006.  Since then that number has been about a 100 per year. In other words, the rate has tripled.

As predicited by the Miami Police Chief when the law was passed: 

"Whether it's trick-or-treaters or kids playing in the yard of someone who doesn't want them there or some drunk guy stumbling into the wrong house, you're encouraging people to possibly use deadly physical force where it shouldn't be used.''

According to Lt. Governor Jeff Kottkamp, the intent of the law was "that you can only use the same amount of force as you believe will be used against you. It certainly wasn't that you can shoot and kill somebody wielding a souvenir baseball bat."

However, there is no provision specifically barring someone with a permit from bringing a gun to a knife fight, which is a loophole a killer could drive a truck through.

Has Florida turned into the Wild West?  It certainly seems like it, when someone can walk out into the street at dinnertime in a residential neighborhood and shoot two Great Danes with impunity.

 

State Attorney Declines Prosecution of Shooter

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State Attorney Declines Prosecution of Shooter

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The State Attorney announced this morning that he will not be charging the shooter of Epic and Samson. The full memorandum from the State Attorney can be read here.  It is obviously disappointing to the owners that the criminal justice system cannot "prove a crime was committed."  They can take some solice in the fact that the investigation was re-opened.  But the fact that the shooter, who by all accounts shot the second dog while running away, will walk away without penalty is difficult to bear.

The State Attorney' justification for not filing, is in part based on the fact that the shooter had a right to be outside under Florida Law, despite being told to stay inside by the 911 operator.  The memo "not to file" concedes that the shooter's rationale for going outside because of children was not borne out by the evidence. "The testimony is clear that the only children in the area were inside a screened in porch and were in no danger." However, according to the report, this makes no difference because the shooter had the right to be outside whether children were there or not. The decision not to file is based on F.S. 776.013 which states in part:

A person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself

The botton line of the memo? Because the shooter says he was in fear for his life, and his next door neighbors say they were also afraid of the dogs, the shooting was justified. 

The report fails to address in any way, the issue of the shooting of Epic as she ran away. Nor does it even mention there is evidence of this in terms of the witnesses. This is significant, because in the Orlando shooting of the two Huskies by Mr. Comins, the state attorney charged the shooter on the final shot only, where the dog was already down and he turned around and fired.

And, of course, the report fails to address the tone of voice of the shooter as he calls in to announce he will shoot the dogs to the 911 operator, or the chuckling when he calls back and ensures 911 that his gun is put away after he has killed them. The actions taken by the shooter, from the 911 call to the the shooting of Epic in the back, all serve to show the lack of a reasonable fear.  

In any case, the no charging decision has been made, and there is nothing more that can be done at this point to change it.  I am unhappy but not surprised by the State Attorney's decision.  The burden of proof is beyond a reasonable doubt, and none of the lawyers I talked to in Ocala who were in public service would have wanted to go forward with such a case.  There is no upside to a prosecution - if you win it is probably a misdemeanor crime, and if you lose, you have spent prosecutorial resources to no avail.

The owners are considering their options.  

Last Updated on Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:01
 

Two Great Danes Shot In Ocala

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Two Great Danes Shot To Death In Ocala

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Two Great Danes, Samson and Epic were shot in Ocala by a neighbor with a 9mm Glock. They got out accidentally and the owners were out looking for them at the time they were killed. One died on scene, the other died hours later at the vet.  The Sheriff's department was called to "assist" animal control in the investigation. Animal control's report indicates that the are "standing behind" the sheriff's investigation since animal control is not equipped to deal with cases involving the discharge of a firearm.

Except the only investigation done by the Sheriff's department was to obtain a self serving statement from the shooter.  The Sheriff's department took no photos, did not document the scene, did not protect the crime scene, did not take any shell casings, locate the bullets or even photograph the blood evidence.  They did manage to talk to (but not take a statement from) two witnesses who stated that the dogs were "not a threat."  The dogs had been in front of the witness's house, and appeared dehydrated and thirsty from being out in the Florida heat for several hours. According to the witnesses, the dogs did lope down towards the shooter, but "before they ever got to him, he began firing."

Both agencies have decided that they will "let the state attorney decide whether to file charges." The only problem is, what have the agencies done to give the state attorney any information to make a decision? 

This sounds like the Bear Bear case all over again. Even the same gun.

What a sad way for the authorities to investigate a case and treat two beautiful loved dogs.  I will be following this case closely and report on any action taken by the state attorney. 

Last Updated on Friday, 03 September 2010 15:34
 


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